you are right to a point deinstitualization only works for about 20% of people relesed back into public others are either not ready or can't cope and end up causing problems for themselves and others around them sad day when they closed kingseat tokanui lake alice and sunnyside

Same as elsewhere, nobody gives a monkeys, a rellie of mine was discharged from a psych unit in the UK, told he was "fine now, go home", so he decided to walk home. Unfortunately he had to cross one of the many bridges over the Thames. He didn't make it to the other side, and yep, splosh. He's fine now aye, yeah he's got no roblemos, cured now, fer sure.

"problems"

Bloody sorry to hear that Beemer, bloody sorry indeed. When did that happen?

Deinstitutioning didn't meant shoving everyone into the public, it meant building local services to house people.

A few years ago now Noffsmissus, but it riles me when politicians think they know more about medicine and treating mental problems than doctors do, and push them to release patients merely to reduce their treatment costs.

PT, some people with psychiatric problems cannot function in the "real world", no matter how much support they get it just isn't enough.

true bmw the outside world wasn't designed for everyone and i have heard many shocking stories about UK mental hospitals and the aussie one's sound brutal too

BMW I think you misunderstand, I'm simply pointing out that deinstitutionalization simply means smaller instiutions out and about the place.

I understand PT, but the reality of deinstitutionalization seems to be regarded as an opportunity to dump the patients into "community housing" where they become someone elses problem.

im bi-polar and i'm not fucked!!! it's people like you that keep the ignorence alive! there are thousands of people in this country that have bi-polar how many times do you hear of trouble? once in a year that's bout it.

but i agree with the fact that if this guy couldn't be trusted to take his meds then he shouldn't be in the public iv'e found meds great in helping me and know the disaster it would cause if i stop taking them.

Do you just take your meds or do search your condition for alternatives....never giving up because you never know!

no i don't give up i see a mental health nurse each week but taking meds makes everything else much easier to deal with

There would be other meds is what I'm saying...knowing the condition inside out would surely equate to 'other' ideas, substances and directions.

i take seraquel the only one that seems to work for me i don't do drugs or drink so that helps me stay out of the funny farm

Then you're not 'fucked'!

seraquel is a pretty powerful sedative, seems to be prescribed readily under public health - perhaps a one pill for all approach?

there are others but you need to be under more regular assessment.

Pigdog, do you mind talking about bipolar? Was just wondering when you or someone else realised something was not right and what you think may have triggered it?

"Then you're not 'fucked'!" Errr, I think that's what PD was saying Rocket!

quite happy to talk about it noofsmissus i have had problems since i was a kid originally they diagnosed me with a extreme case of A.D.D at 16 they diagnosed me as bi-polar 2 which is different from the original bi-polar in the way that i don't have many manic episodes but still get the depression and down periods. one day i will be fine happy listening to music reading books the next day i would come over with a massive sense of doom and sadness for no apparent reason when im real bad i can't get out of bed and have learned not to to watch the news on these days because the articles seem to feed my already unstable mind the day after this downturn im fine again.

the trigger of my mental illness is genetic runs in the family it seems the first born in every generation get's affected in our family.

do you take all the seraquel you are prescribed
i bet you dont need it all
how about thinking of the boys
you could save some up for a uthink meet in hamilton

want do much to you unless you like sleeping for 12 hours

Shit he sleeps 12 hours a day now, he'd be completely out!

"they dont like me either "

"mental people need to be in proper mental homes not released into the public areas without he neighbours having a clue whats going on or what potential dangers they are "

That's true, Bum.
May be this guy is not that bad that he requires to be in a mental home.

I feel sad for him and for the victim.

2 now ones been taken away
back to auckland hopefully
they fit in so much easier there

or because they are black

Or Indians aye Bum, aren't they your speciality?

no indians arent generally mentally ill they are organised criminals and we get the so called better ones
id hate to think what the worst still at home are like